{"id":78,"date":"2017-02-03T00:02:37","date_gmt":"2017-02-03T00:02:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.hippy.com\/hip\/uncategorized\/marx-communism\/"},"modified":"2017-02-03T00:02:37","modified_gmt":"2017-02-03T00:02:37","slug":"marx-communism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.hipplanet.com\/hip\/ask-the-old-hippie\/marx-communism\/","title":{"rendered":"Marx &#038; Communism"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\t\t\t\t<span style=\"color: #003300;\">Dear Mr Hippy<br \/>\nLove the web-site, but there&#8217;s one small thing that I&#8217;ve just gotta<br \/>\ncorrect&#8230;. <\/span><\/p>\n<p>Communism is opposed to the state in any form &#8211; unlike your answer to the<br \/>\n&#8216;Stinking Hippy says.<\/p>\n<p>Marx never actually provided a blue print for how a communist community was<br \/>\nsupposed to look like or how it was specifically to act. The big idea was<br \/>\nfor people, who are all equal, to work together in a harmony that was absent<br \/>\nfrom any great overarching power (like when French students and workers took<br \/>\nover an area of Paris and created their own artisan style community in<br \/>\nprotest against oppressive politics &#8211; your own fellow hippies!). By not<br \/>\nleaving a blue print, Marx thought that people would be able to create a<br \/>\ncommunist community free from the prescriptions of an antiquated era, that<br \/>\npeople would eventually evolve away from capitalism once it had reached its<br \/>\npeek and instead search for a better way of living where there was no<br \/>\ndiscrimination based on material wealth, race, colour or gender (the sort of<br \/>\nequality of living that resembles Star Trek I guess, no ones got a higher )<br \/>\nUnfortunately, by not providing a blue-print he left his ideals open to<br \/>\ninterpretation by some pretty nasty guys (i.e.. China, Russia, Serbia etc.).<br \/>\nBut that&#8217;s the problem with art &#8211; it generally can be interpretated by<br \/>\npeople in line with their own self interest.<\/p>\n<p>Basically he just saw a lot of corruption, poverty, inequality, bulling and<br \/>\nunnecessary pain in the 18th Century ( very anti-hippy behaviour!) and<br \/>\nwanted to motivate people to change things. Unfortunately the world was<br \/>\nstill quite barbaric in those days and so Marx&#8217;s revolution was portrayed in<br \/>\na way that people could associate with &#8211; namely a bloody uprising (aka<br \/>\nRussia, French revolution, China, Serbia etc.). I think that Marx gets<br \/>\npicked on a bit too much &#8211; after all he was only a guy with a concept that<br \/>\nthe world needed to be improved for the benefit of all. And that is<br \/>\nsomething that were all familiar with (and remember there were a lot more<br \/>\nscary people in history with worse ideals than that).<\/p>\n<p>So fellow hippy &#8211; do not judge those who you have not met &#8211; and never listen<br \/>\nto gossip coz it poisons your head.<\/p>\n<p>Peace, love and mushrooms<br \/>\nSarah<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><span style=\"color: purple;\">Sarah,<br \/>\nWhat you are describing is more like anarchy than communism. Anarchy is anti-system, where as Marx just saw replacing one system with another. Much of Marx&#8217;s focus was on the economics of society, and even though he took a sociologist&#8217;s approach, he completely ignored human psychology (a new field at the time). And I was discussing communism in practice, more than theory. Communism in it&#8217;s pure form is something completely different, most closely resembling the communes of the 60s till the present. But just like chickens, humans tend to establish a pecking order which then invests more power in the hands of a few who then control the masses. It&#8217;s inevitable as long as humans remain self-centered and greedy. <\/span><\/p>\n<p>By not providing a blueprint (which would always be unworkable anyway),<br \/>\nMarx copped out. He just put down the existing system without really<br \/>\noffering a viable alternative (as did many hippies). Fortunately many<br \/>\nhippies did explore alternatives, but these were limited to very small<br \/>\ncommunities of mostly like-minded individuals. And as you can see most of<br \/>\nthese have failed for one reason or another. The only ones that remain are<br \/>\nthose that launched capitalist enterprises that could bring in revenue<br \/>\nfrom outside the commune to keep it alive. And the politics of communes can<br \/>\nbe just as fucked as those of the greater society. I know of many where the<br \/>\nleaders took advantage of their fellow communers, and exploited them &#8211;<br \/>\nthese sometimes but not always had some kind of religious bent.<\/p>\n<p>And if you think the world ISN&#8217;T barbaric anymore, you haven&#8217;t traveled<br \/>\nmuch, and aren&#8217;t keeping up with what&#8217;s happening in the world. In fact why<br \/>\nnot look in your own backyard at the ANIMAL HOLOCAUST that is occuring just<br \/>\nfor economic reasons. It&#8217;s completely unnecessary. This is capitalism<br \/>\nshowing its true colors. Just wait until it&#8217;s a disease affecting humans.<br \/>\nYou can expect a similar response. Unfortunately, THAT day is coming&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>-The Old Hippy<\/p>\n<p>Posted by: skip<br \/>\nViews: 13753<br \/>\nTopic:14\t\t<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dear Mr Hippy Love the web-site, but there&#8217;s one small thing that I&#8217;ve just gotta correct&#8230;. Communism is opposed to the state in any form &#8211; unlike your answer to the &#8216;Stinking Hippy says. Marx never actually provided a blue print for how a communist community was supposed to look like or how it was [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[34,35,81,103],"class_list":["post-78","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ask-the-old-hippie","tag-communes","tag-communism","tag-marx","tag-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.hipplanet.com\/hip\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/78","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.hipplanet.com\/hip\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.hipplanet.com\/hip\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.hipplanet.com\/hip\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.hipplanet.com\/hip\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=78"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.hipplanet.com\/hip\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/78\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.hipplanet.com\/hip\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=78"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.hipplanet.com\/hip\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=78"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.hipplanet.com\/hip\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=78"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}